So Samuelsson won the whole #¤%#&, congratulations.
Also to the other competitors who made it to the end.
20.10, Anonymous (hey, critique at last!)
Can this competition any more called the "World's Strongest Man"? It
has become more and more about endurance. Weights in the Farmer's Walk
were only 120 kg. And guys from USA don't seem to manage, even when the
weights are lighter than in Finnish district area competitions. A better
name for this sport would be "old but nimble men in a good aerobic shape
competition". Take off the competition rights from Yankee organization
and Rubber Biceps!
Your American bashing bores me. The Americans deserve
to be there every bit as much as the British competitors yet you do not
bash them. Grow up! I can't wait to see the results of the
Strongest Man Alive contest
20.10, I asked Chris about this and here is what she answered to me
Your anti-American propaganda bores me. Can't you find a new
subject? If you hate Americans so much why do you have a web-page
Your anti-American rhetoric bores me. Time to grow up, learn
how to spell and stop being so transparent in your support of Euripeans.
News is supposed to be unbiased. Try it.
(Sami: I have nothing personal against American
competitors and I think Mark Philippi did great before he got injured.
Also Pfister ranked high in the finals. The others didn't have enough experience
yet. Many people in Finland have already given much credit to Philippi.
My problem arose when Manfred wrote something
like "5 Americans get to WSM, good chances for everybody". Usually there
have been just one competitor / country + the reining champion. In this
case, Kiri should have not been there either! Last year he got invited
because he won the Europe's Strongest, this year there were much more invitations
to post. So I shouldn't complain too much really (just maybe Uppa and Ojanaho..).
Also Kiri hasn't competed in Finland's Strongest for - I can't remember
how many years (somebody might know the reasons for that) - so he won't
take that road to WSM.
I'm sorry I have posted and let to post too
many stupid opinions here, but these pages are meant to be biased really.
Usually when people post here something, it's very biased. Chris is the
only one more objective.
If these pages were commercial, they might
also be politically correct.
And the reason these pages are in English?
Also Finland is about as American.. as a country
here next to Russia can get. We get to see your movies and eat fast food
at least. If there were a bit less crime in America, we would probably
think more highly of your country than you do yourself.
I could write a lot more but that would surely
bore you. I repeat I'm sorry for all the propaganda and will start targeting
Sweden in the near future. I have more friends there. Bad thing Magnus
is such a nice guy. Oh, can I still target TWI?)
This is something to be concerned about not because Americans are over
sensitive but because, quite honestly, you do seem to constantly put down
Americans. Of course you have every right to be proud of your heritage
as we all are but it just seems that only those born in a nordic country
are worthy of anything in your eyes. I myself have always tried my
hardest to maintain an unbiased opinion or at least treat all fairly except
when I talk about best buns etc. But you have to realize if the organizers
want to push this contest in the US and let's face the truth that this
is where the real money will be made well than they are gonna put more
Americans in the competition. I have said before that the American
competitors should have to qualify just as everybody else does but my opinion
doesn't carry that much weight:)
Anyways I feel that you could have worded that paragraph differently
about Pfister & Virtanen and why did you feel the need to bold it and
use a larger type font? You clearly are over biased in this regard.
Getting back to Virtanen: I agree that they should have probably
put him in because he placed higher but I think they wanted another American
in there for marketing reasons and yes it if unfair but did you or anybody
else out there really expect TWI to be fair? I didn't think so. Unfortunately
this looks like it will cause more hard feelings than anything else.
Can Pfister be blamed for taking his shot in the final? Would Virtanen
have stepped aside to let Pfister compete if it were the other way around?
I don't think so and you know this is most likely the case. I think
people need to stop blaming Americans for being American and home to the
place most likely for WSM to really take off. Is it not evident enough
in the fact that at least 10 web pages have come into existence because
of the competition being held in the states last year - this proves that
they are headed in that direction in gaining popularity & profit in
the US (which is like 50 countries in 1). In the end those
in charge of WSM are going to follow the money paved road to the United
States which is, without a doubt, the world's most lucrative sports-entertainment
Shouldn't it have been Boyer and Virtanen as alternates instead of Bowers,
Pfister, and Gerard? There should have been a next in line qualifying
list of competitors just in case and they should not have been sent home
after the heats. This should not have included the chosen testers
either. It would have avoided dispute but then the people at TWi/BBC/ESPN
haven't got one brain
cell amongst them.
>Chris wrote: At least you can buy a newspaper to find info
on it. It really must be popular >over there.
20.10, Sami to Chris
The only popular sport in Finland is Ice Hockey. By far only one paper
has written anything about WSM 98, and that paper, Hämeen Sanomat,
is published where Jouko and Janne Virtanen live. So that's how popular
this sport is here.
About us having many strongman competitions yearly, well that's true
in a way, but only very few of those can be thought to prepare competitors
to WSM. Ask Harold Collins about the Snowman competition last year and
he can tell. Also there aren't many places where to train strongman. Heavy
cases at best, but that's it.
And in all of these Finnish strongman competitions, there are practically
no prizes. And I would not agree with the guy who said they use heavier
weights in district area competitions here than in WSM.
So you must understand, that it's not in any way easier to a Finnish
competitor to participate in the WSM. In America you might make some money
with muscles, but not here.
Have you noticed how many web-pages write Juoko instead of
Jouko. Well you pronounce it pretty much the same anyway :-)
(Chris: Now you've made me rethink this. Let's start over.
Is it pronounced like: yoko like yoko ono? or yooko like you koe?)
How about Yo!Co??
Juoko means "does he/she drink?". So Juoko Ahola translates to "does
(Chris: Well it could have translated to something much worse eh?)
I really think that the comments sent in should not have been
added to the page. Well at least the one by Kari - it's really uncalled
for even if it is to be taken as sarcasticly humorous. You know I
could say how bad an impression certain folks from the nordic parties made
in Primm last year, but all stupid opinions like these are better left
unsaid or better yet unposted. Don't you think it's better not to post
(Sami: Ok, now there's a one bad joke less
then. See what I mean with I would have more to post. Better not.)
26.10, Jarkko Hyvärinen
I read your comments on your site about the contest... I'd have to
say that your site has, by far, the most colorful comments of any of the
I think it was kind of obvious that the organizers wanted Samuelsson
to win this year, for whatever reason, because the final was built for
(I can't really agree here. The organizers
didn't plant the bugs in the food! And the events can't always be like
they were in '97. In his current shape, Magnus will place high in any type
of competition. As will Jouko.
I was waiting to see Badenhorst, Karlsen and
Ahola deadlift against each other, but it seems that they didn't want to
have events which would clearly favor someone.
Magnus Samuelsson has said:
"In this sport you have to always have a little
bit of luck. If you get events that fit you, then you can score high, and
opposite can always happen."
And I recall Jouko saying something like "Riku
will be a tough competitor to beat this year, even though the events don't
Now when I'm getting more used to the idea
that Magnus won, I think we'll need to give him more credit than just for
having a cast iron stomach.)
To you anonymous: Your options are worth nothing as long as
you don't post your real name.
30.10, Patrick Marinko
To sensitive Chris: The strongest should win and compete. That is it.
No TV-politics no geopolitics and any other bullshit. The competition will
never get popular if the competitors are not the strongest men available.
The only way that I can think to make the WSM (or other strength shows)
popular is to do them like Finnish GP was done. It is a show that can be
viewed in one sitting (ie. 4 hours max) from one place. Think about a competition
in one of your big football stadium with 40000 spectators :)
Hi , you guys have a great web site . I live in Tacoma , Wa.
(U.S.) and enjoy reading about the strongman news in Europe .As of now
Finland seems to have the best men overall , great depth . I read some
of the comments from some of the fans , putting down the U.S. athletes
etc.Hey , I understand their frustrations especially when Virtanen got
passed over by an American Phil Pfister to the finals . But like we all
know , TWI does a terrible job in many things they do, that was one of
the mistakes . But as far as too many Americans being invited, that maybe
so but like someone said that might help to get more dollars into the sport
. Because athough these comp. in Finland are popular I read the prize money
at the Helsinki GP was only $2000. I do think that Finland should have
4-5 slots in the comp. I see you are going to rate the athletes starting
in '99 , that's great . That's the first time I saw anybody do that (and
all-time greats ) . Perhaps , TWI will use your rating as a reference ?
Hey , I seen the results of some of the Finland contests but didn't see
Ojanaho name in there . Does he still compete , the last I heard of him
he was training with Ahola and made an showing here in North Dakota (U.S.)
. What's he been up to lately ? Do you have a list of the best Finland
strongman ? I know Ahola , Kiri , Virtanen , Ojanaho and Uppa but who else
do you think we need to keep our eyes on ?
thanks keep up the good job !
(Sami: Yes, the prize money should be higher
to get more talented guys from US to compete. But let's see first what
will happen in Strongest Man Alive next weekend. I will post some comments
about it later.
About best Finnish competitors: I don't really
know that many of them, so first check the results from Finland's Strongest
'98 (biased news page) then add Kiri, Ahola, Ojanaho, Osala and... But
I don't know if the future will be as bright as it's now.
Jouko told me that Ojanaho is still a WSM-class
competitor. But I haven't heard much from him either.)